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EP 25 | Galen Druke and Josh Barro

EP 25 | Galen Druke and Josh Barro

Update: 2025-09-04
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Mike Pesca welcomes Galen Druke and Josh Barro for a sharp yet civil debate on Trump’s immigration strategy, crime, and the charge of creeping autocracy. They weigh whether cruelty brings Trump political advantage, how Democrats should frame their response, and what “autocracy makes you poor” really means for voters. Plus, Mike spotlights where polls mislead, why midterms punish incumbents, and why branding matters as much as policy.

 

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EP 25 | Galen Druke and Josh Barro

EP 25 | Galen Druke and Josh Barro